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24 September 2003 

Present:   MJI, JRL, PSB, DWE, JMI, STH

Agenda
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1.   Actions from last meeting
2.   Comments on WFAU minutes
3.   Report from RAL camera design review meeting held 17-19th Sept
4.   JRL's visit to JAC
5.   Progress on deliverables for Quarterly report
6.   AOB - filling in .away
           document nos. and their wrangling
	   
There are two reports filed for comments plus Pete's updated ESO docs,
discussed under item 5.
	   
http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/~wfcam/docs/reports/interleaving/
http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/~wfcam/docs/reports/astrom/
http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/~wfcam/internal/WP2/

Minutes
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1.   Actions from last meeting

STH  no progress with Sandy Legget's data, ongoing                         <<<<
     
JMI  have updated and converted the pipeline milestones tasks and dates 
MJI  document to HTML (http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/~wfcam/docs/milestones.html)
JRL  and filled in most of the relevant entries.

MJI  is awaiting AA's return from holiday (re. UKIDSS Survey Manager). It was
     decided to transfer this to JRL who is about to visit JAC.            <<<<
     
MJI  it was decided to postpone updating Section 2. of DFS user requirements 
     document since it was not needed by the Camera Design Review.

STH  still needs to write a context intro for simulation report            <<<<

STH  JRL will discuss the setting up of the photometric standards fields 
     within the characterization plan with Paul Hirst or Andy Adamson 
     during his visit to JAC.                                              <<<<

DWE  has emailed STH with his additions to the characterization plan. STH 
     will pass these on to JRL who will raise them during his JAC visit.   <<<<

STH  has not yet extended the number of fields that he has established for 
     WFCAM to the south for use by VISTA. It was decided that this should 
     be an early Q4 task with a timescale of 1 month.                      <<<<

DWE  altered the documentation web page so that there are release and revised 
     dates next to each entry. The web page was still viewed as having too
     much information on it and being hard to navigate. The filenames were 
     regarded as unnecessary. The document numbers also need to be added. 
     DWE and STH will sort this out.                                       <<<<

DWE  did equivalent 2x2 interleaving plots cf. 3x3 demonstration and placed
     the results on web (part of interleaving report in
     http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/~wfcam/docs/reports/interleaving/)

DWE  had a look at the 2MASS web pages for examples of "interleaving"
     efficacy, but no suitable information was found.

DWE  has written report on interleaving work (see above).

MJI  provided feedback on VISTA IR detector test procedure document to
JRL  Jim Emerson and Malcolm Stewart, and at the Camera Design Review
PSB  meeting to the author.

PSB  sorted out the accommodation, agenda and exact location for CDR meeting 
     at RAL.

DWE  emailed Andy Batey to request a link to CASU from the research page of 
     the IoA web site. This alteration has not been done yet - monitoring  <<<<

STH  updated the prototype pipeline progress (WFS) scripts and web pages.
JMI

PSB  has obtained the overview of the VISTA IR camera design. However, this
     was in paper rather than electronic form. MJI will ask at the quarterly
     meeting about electronic access to these documents.  [However, Steven
     Beard in a pre-emptive strike provided the relevant information -
     see ~wfcam/public_html/internal/vista/ESO_starter.txt]              

PSB  have ordered a rack-mountable data server PC to go with the recently 
MJI  received LT02 tape drive/library unit. The LT02 is currently being 
     tested on cass38 and is being used to backup the CASU data disks. 
     The data ingest server PC will be a 3GHZ twin Xeon processor system 
     with 4x300 Gbyte IDE discs served through a 3-Ware controller.  The 
     operating system will start off as RedHat Linux.  Delivery is expected
     next week, delay was caused by 2 week wait for enclosure.


2.   Comments on WFAU minutes

It was unclear whether the disc problems encountered at ROE had any
parallels with CASU systems. MJI said that he would contact NCH to get 
some more details.                                                         <<<<

The proposal for a central VDFS web site was noted.

There was some interest in the deliberations going on regarding what
distribution of Linux was best. There is a growing feeling that RedHat 
has too many updates and releases to ergonomically maintain.


3.   Report from RAL camera design review meeting held 17-19th Sept

PSB reported that the 3 day meeting, attended by 20-25 delegates, was very
interesting.  While many of the presentations were very detailed, some were
still preliminary. In general though the CASU group were impressed.  

PSB attended all 3 days, JRL and MJI for most of the final 2 days.  The 
latter two gave a presentation of the general plans for pipeline processing 
VISTA (and WFCAM) data.

The camera control software presentation was given by Steven Beard. It was
unclear whether he was the only person working on the coding aspect of the 
VISTA camera software interface.  Some concern was expressed if this was the
case, due to the size of the task and the tight timelines.

An example of the usefulness of the meeting was the instigation of a
solution to monitor stepper motor errors via their reporting within the 
FITS headers.  And as a real bonus, CASU brought back some examples of 
engineering data from a 2kx2k Raytheon detector already delivered to RAL
and were pleasantly surprised by the quality of the data.  Many useful and 
fruitful discussions regarding data capture and aquistion were had and 
overall impressions of the IRAC controllers + Raytheon detectors were very 
favourable. 

There was some quite a lot of discussion regarding the Data Interface 
Dictionary.  CASU agreed to supply a draft version of this to RAL/ATC 
within the next 2 weeks.                                                   <<<<


4.   JRL's visit to JAC

JRL will be at the JAC from September 29th to October 5th inclusive.  The 
purpose of this visit is to progress a number of outstanding issues that 
have proven impossible, or impractical, to do remotely.  JRL and
JAC staff held a conference phone call last week to detail plans for the 
visit.  The main one being to install the CASU WFCAM DR pipeline on a JAC 
machine and demonstrate the functionality of system up to the level of 
milestone 4.  A further aim will be to ensure that JAC staff are able to 
check the CASU system out from the CVS, build it, and exercise it with 
UFTI data.

There was also some discussion on the ORAC-DR infrastructure the CASU
WFCAM DR pipeline is using. JRL confirmed that WFCAM ORAC-DR uses the 
ORAC_ generic FITS headers and agreed to look into moving the MEFITS 
header reader code into the Astro::FITS::Header module rather than keep 
this generic code in ORAC-DR.  Since this was an unexepected imposition,
JRL asked JMI to help out with this task and will take the modified code 
with him.

Further discussions with JAC staff will be continued at ADASS, where JRL, 
FE and TJ will all be present.

JRL will also sort out various UKIRT Archive and OMP database issues 
regarding updating WFCAM FITS headers in Cambridge with observer comments
and other ancilliary information; and discuss aquiring Sybase replication
licences at both ends for automating DB mirroring.

It was thought that this visit would also be the best opportunity to discuss
several other issues raised in earlier action items.


5.  Progress on deliverables for Quarterly report

MJI briefly described his astrometric distortion report. It was noted that 
for WFCAM the spatial distortion would be significantly wavelength dependent. 
It was note that an "r-cubed" radial distortion model gives a very good fit
to the ray-traced distortion pattern and that further work on characterising 
the distortion can only be done using real on-sky data.

One of the many conclusions from the report is that there is approximately
a 10" diameter limit to dithering patterns for WFCAM before non-linear
resampling at the detector level is required.  For VISTA, no practically 
useful dither is possible without non-linear resampling.  It was also
noted that the scale distortion has an impact on photometric measurements. 
For WFCAM the size of the effect varies from 0% to 1.6% ie. comfortably 
within a +/-1% overall systematic calibration error budget.  However, for
VISTA the size of the effect varies from 0% to 3.5% and without correction
would overflow the entire systematic photometry error budget.  

Both "problems" for VISTA will require a more sophisticated version of the 
pipeline to deal with them.  This has already been planned for and will be 
incorporated as an option in Version 3. of the WFCAM pipeline (ie. Version 1.
of the VISTA pipeline).

A few minor changes for clarification of some points were requested and
these will be incorporated prior to release on the documentation web 
page.                                                                      <<<<

DWE described his interleaving report. In addition to what was reported 
last time some 3x3 interleaving tests have been carried out. These show 
an improvement at the bright end over 2x2 interleaving, however it is
anticipated that in real data additional effects will be present that will
also limit the bright end positional accuracy.  MJI suggested that the 
profile fitting software written for DIVA tests could form the basis for
PSF fitting tests on this data.  However, he was of the opinion that  
straightforward profile fitting of hedgehog-like PSFs on interleaved data 
would not work very well and that in the end simultaneous PSF fitting to 
each individual component frame may well be the best solution.  

The slightly revised version will be put on the public web pages.          <<<<

There was also some discussion regarding why interleaving currently 
affects the detection limit.

When real data is available it will be worth comparing results obtained 
from simply stacking all the frames, compared to processing them as 
interleaved frames.  Interestingly, the hedgehog-like frames are not
visually appealing either ("look like shite" was one comment).

It is a moot point whether interleaving real data is worthwhile - we 
will see.

The deliverables from Q3 were then discussed in detail.  As usual we all 
need to send in a summary for the Q3 report and suggestions for new 
deliverables for Q4 to STH and MJI by Thursday evening.                    <<<<


6.   AOB

Filling in .away:  we were all encouraged (again) to fill in our .away 
files regularly and preferably in advance.

Each document we have produced has to be allocated a document number. 
STH will write a document describing the document numbering scheme and 
keep track of the numbers.                                                 <<<<

Amazingly, we have received our contract renewal letters.  Except PSB,
but he's already got one anyway.


Continuing Actions
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STH  check Sandy Legget's data and (probably) send in a request for more 
     data.
     
STH  write context intro for simulation report

STH  extend the number of fields that he has established for WFCAM to the
     south for use by VISTA. It was decided that this should be a Q4 task 
     with a timescale of 1 month.

DWE  will monitor the visibility progress of CASU on IoA web pages


New Actions
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JRL  during JAC visit, find out from AA about the UKIDSS Survey Manager 
     appointment on Hawaii.
     
JRL  discuss the setting up of the photometric standards fields within the 
     characterization plan with Paul Hirst and Andy Adamson during visit 
     to JAC.

STH  pass on DWE's additions to the characterization plan to JRL who will
JRL  raise them during his JAC visit.

DWE  remove the filenames from the documentation web page and add the
STH  document numbers and reformat to be more user friendly

MJI  contact NCH for more details on the ROE disc problems and plans
     for alternative Linux systems.

PSB  write real draft version of Data Interface Dictionary document and 
MJI  supply to RAL within 2 weeks.
JRL

JRL  get as far as Milestone 4 by the end of JAC trip.

JRL  pass on CASU additions to the characterization plan.

MJI  make minor changes to astrometric distortion report and place on web

DWE  place interleaving report on public access side of web

ALL  send in a summary for our Q3 report and new deliverables for Q4 to STH 
     and MJI by Thursday evening.

STH  provide a document number for each released CASU document and write 
     a document describing the scheme. Also keep track of these numbers.